Quar has a perfectly valid statement here^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

While I agree, especially with your comments here, at this late point, I think another beta patch is unlikely.  IMO, The game still plays quite well thru the early techs (except for possibly corvettes).  The learning curve for new players is quite high, so I suspect they won't immediately see the imbalances, and still be able to play enjoyable games. 

... so more will be lured into the trap?    Are you sure they won't be scared by the huge contents of the "RTS" game?

But I still hope another patch before release. I guess the space games are always less popular, comparing to the bang-bang-bang games.

From my own personal experience, it seems like the MP games are the ones that have issues with crashing.  I've yet to have an SP crash.  So maybe up until this point, they've been just going for SP fixes, now maybe they'll go for MP fixes?  Idk, but I can hope...

Like u sad , games have "issues"with crashing.

This one doesnt. It crashes 90% MP games. Some people cant play it at alll cause they drop or desynk in 100% of their games!!!. this isnt an issue this is  "not working"

If they think they will release a patch in lauchday that will fix some problems, it wont work .

It will scare MP like it scared in vanlilla. Then they had no competition. Now, they have a lot.

Its a shoot in a foot

There is actually a game who's trailer made a very specific jab at SoaSE...time for SD to step up...

Legends of Pegasus, Novus Aeterno, Endless Space, Gemini Wars.... all viable options if Rebellion fails.

Out of those options, only Gemini Wars for me, sadly. And Rebellion cant fail in my case, as i already played it for about 90 hours...even if i did not play it from now on at all, it was money well spent. It was basically only game i played since the beginning of March, bar few matches of Modern Warfare 3.

EDIT: God, how i wish for one more beta today/tommorrow. I cant wait another week 

I agree with Quar: it needs more time in the development oven.  It's far from being ready for prime time right now.

I've NOT had a single minidump, or desync in the last 20 or so games online!  (And I used to get mini'd all of the time in 1.34).  So I don't understand, why the difference?  Whats the problem?

The only differences that I can think of are:  I haven't been playing alot of 5v5s, and I've set my Video settings to 'Window Mode' (and most effects at low).  Is it just the larger games that are minidumping? 

Desyncs simply aren't going to get fixed, unless somebody catches one, and sends in the info! 

Yes.

I no feel necessary beta 4, becuase the most bugs / desbalance has been fixed, so, minor bugs can fixed after final release without problem. I think the game was really ok for a final release, i had no more crash, can plays hours without problem. The only problem is enter on a battle against the fucking ragnarov.... this take down my capitals very easy , but i take his fleet very easy too, so, for me is ok.

NO

Someone in the forum reported that the desync can't be reproduced with the same save file.

I guess it may have something to do with the auto save, so I suggest to decrease the interval to 5 minutes or so, during the beta phase.

Crashes , from my expireince , are limited to vasari. Stripping makes game extrimly unstable , and mobile SB doesnt help too.

If u dont play vasa , especialy vasa loyalist, u wont see the problem.

If SINS wants to cater to the MP crowd, releasing the game "as is" would be ill-advised. I wouldn't mind waiting a whole month for them to fix balance issues, because if they work extra hard on it, that's probably how long it will take. (And I have a 52k connection... >.< )

As to the original question of another Beta or a post-release patch, if SD doesn't push the release date back, I'd like another beta.

Didn't Blair Fraiser say that they're taking the "Its done when its done" approach? Leaving MP in its current state wouldn't be following that philosophy at all.