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Titles says it, mostly.

I gather Titans, being described as huge ships which can tackle entire fleets, will be in the vicinity of a starbase's power.

Maybe the starbases will be buffed a bit to have a better chance to stand a Titan mano-a-mano, Can the devs elaborate?

Will it be:

Starbase > Titan

Titan > Starbase

or

Titan < Depends on the upgrades > Starbase ?

Which brings the questions:

Do Titans have jump drives? ( yes probably)

Will Titans have the same upgrade mechanics of starbases, but different upgrades (please yes please please pleaaaaase yes?!?)?


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on Mar 27, 2011

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Operation_Emperor%27s_Hammer

This is the case where ONE SSD did a BDZ.

on Mar 27, 2011

Zeta1127
Actually, nowhere on Wookieepedia, the source for canon, does it say that one ISD can do a Base Delta Zero or that it can't.

I have it on very good authority that, while occasionally not outright said as "BDZ", it describes effects congruent to a BDZ that are performed by a lone ISD.

Further, Wookieepedia is not the most reliable of canon sources for Star Wars. Numerous EU books describe BDZ operations, without outright calling them BDZ. And, said EU novels are part of Star Wars canon and continuity.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Operation_Emperor%27s_Hammer

This is the case where ONE SSD did a BDZ.

Note that there's two ways to interpret the article:

1) It offers nothing on ISD Base Delta Zero capabilities.
2) Since an SSD could pull off a BDZ in four minutes, it's likely that an ISD could do the same thing, just in more time.

on Mar 27, 2011

Well, of course an Executor-class Star Dreadnought could conduct a Base Delta Zero, that was one of their main functions under the Galactic Empire. Yeah, the terms Base Delta Zero and orbital bombardment could probably be used interchangeably, and it is not like I said one ISD couldn't. I share that sentiment, all Wookieepedia cares about is appearances and sources, with no regard for what those things do to canon. Several posts in this thread describe my feelings on the subject.

on Mar 30, 2011

I'm not sure a starbase style upgrade system would be appropriate here;  Starbases were designed to be available early on, but can be enhanced as resources allow.

The Titans on the other hand strike me as more an end-game thing; more along the lines of a mobile super-weapon you build when you want the game to end.  It wouldn't really make sense if you could build them for cheap, but then pour upgrades into them to actually make them the super units they were supposed to be in the first place.

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing some customization options for them; however this should be more along the lines of, "Do I want the super death laser, the planetary mind control ray or the invulnerability module?"

on Apr 06, 2011

OriLord
They sould be renamed.Titan sounds lame, BF2142 anyone?

 

Smells like EVE to me. Not more hotdrops!

on Apr 06, 2011

OriLord
They sould be renamed.Titan sounds lame, BF2142 anyone?

 

And here I was thinking Greek Mythology. Silly me.

on Apr 07, 2011

Mereel_
Smells like EVE to me. Not more hotdrops!

Well for one, the Vasari are the only ones who can do anything close to a hotdrop. For two, it's nothing like EVE, as other than the fact that "Titans are big, and can take on fleets", we know nothing about them.

We don't know if they have lots of little guns, or a few big guns, or a really big gun, or lots of big guns, or were rolled in liquid guns and then baked to a tender-brown color, or dunked in molten guns and then dried out in the sun for three days.

And here I was thinking Greek Mythology. Silly me.

I wasn't thinking Greek Mythology. But then again, I was thinking more "Titan=usually a word used to described really big&powerful&deadly ships in numerous scifi franchises".

But the Greek Titans were big and powerful and deadly, so I suppose that they would fit the bill.

Which brings up an interesting question. Will there be a Space Pony Titan?

on Apr 07, 2011

There ya go.

on Apr 07, 2011



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Doesn't look quite right. I envision a space pony titan to be, well, a giant spess poneh. That then brings poneh fureh bah steel rehn.

But it's coloration and insignia is pretty spot on.

on Apr 07, 2011

There ya go.

You just... have that lying around?

 

on Apr 07, 2011

Maybe Space Ponies are going to be a playable faction in a future update to Distant Stars. 

on Apr 07, 2011

Whiskey144

Quoting OriLord, reply 5They sould be renamed.Titan sounds lame, BF2142 anyone?
I rather like the sound of "Titan". It conveys a sense, of, I don't know, titanic proportions or power.

TBH, I'm certain that you're the only one who's attempted to draw a parallel between Sins Titans and '2142 Titans. They are similar in name alone, really.


Quoting TheExile1, reply 6The awesome class name Super Star Destroyers was already taken so they choose Titan instead.

Tib I like the TEC titan and some of the Vasari but the Advent needs a little more love.

 

I really hate big, beefy ships called "destroyers". It makes no sense from the point-of-view of proper naval nomenclature. This is one thing, IMO, that separates Warhammer 40,000 better than some scifi settings. Destroyers are, properly, the smallest class of interstellar-capable warship.

Further, the "Super Star Destroyers" were actually "Star Dreadnoughts" in type classification, and "SSD" in standard nomenclature.

Also, TEC need some love too. They have a late-game dependant on keeping an advantage during the early game.

@OP:

My personal opinions are that, 1-on-1, standard fight using raw DPS, a Titan should (barely) lose to a Starbase of equal capabilities.

Instead, a Titan should have a long-range standoff ability that can be directed at a Starbase from beyond it's engagement range (barring strikecraft) and do massive damage. This would allow the Titan to basically "alpha-strike" the SB, allowing the Titan to enter into a raw DPS-based slugging match with the SB on a significant advantage (more health).

To balance the ability, it would only be coded to be capable of targeting starbases and other Titans.

 

I do not understand this too. Why sometimes destroyers are classed above cruisers? For example in Conflict Freespace, largest ships were destroyer class (Lucifer)....or Babylon 5, the Omega Destroyer was larger than Hyperion Heavy Cruiser... Is it just the authors do not give a shit about these things and only us ubergeeks care, or does it have some reasonable explanation?

on Apr 07, 2011

Destroyer sounds cooler then Cruiser.

on Apr 07, 2011

Timmaigh
I do not understand this too. Why sometimes destroyers are classed above cruisers? For example in Conflict Freespace, largest ships were destroyer class (Lucifer)....or Babylon 5, the Omega Destroyer was larger than Hyperion Heavy Cruiser... Is it just the authors do not give a shit about these things and only us ubergeeks care, or does it have some reasonable explanation?

Well, I think that some authors don't care, and some authors do and put it in, but by and large, most authors follow "Rule of Cool", because:

Destroyer sounds cooler then Cruiser.

So it's that simple really. But of course there's also sorts of egregious errors, like IRL, a "battlecruiser" wouldn't exist in space because it'd simply be a weaker-armored battleship, and wouldn't be any "faster" or "longer-ranged" than a battleship. Which of course prompts the "why not just build a battleship?" question.

Ironically, 40K again solves the problem with battlecruisers being cheaper than battleships, and generally having weaker weapons than battleships, but rivaling said battleships for range.

on Apr 07, 2011

In other words, a battlecruiser is a poor man's battleship, that's basically what they are anyway.

This kind of thing reminds me of how the Strident-class Star Defender got put in the same league as an Imperial-class Star Destroyer in one of the LotF books, and since it was in a book it is canon until they resolve it, while her sister class, the Viscount-class Star Defender is comparable to a Star Dreadnought like the Executor-class.

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